On Tuesday August 28 2018, PBL Netherlands Environmental Assessment Agency in collaboration with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs presented the book 'the geography of future water challenges' at the World Water Week in Stockholm. During a sofa session, the Dutch Water Envoy Henk Ovink and Maimbo Malesu, program coordinator water management at The World Agroforestry Center, were interviewed about the challenges faced by the drylands from a global and local perspective.